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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1282
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 29 Oct 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1282
-
- Today's Topics:
- "Vanity" Call Signs
- `Vanity` Call Signs
- ICOM 24AT problem **HELP** (2 msgs)
- Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
- MACINTOSH, HAM,
- ORBS$301.MICRO.AMSAT
- ORBS$301.MISC.AMSAT
- ORBS$301.OSCAR.AMSAT
- questionable repeater operation
- Slowpokes
- Special (vanity) calls
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Oct 93 22:17:05 GMT
- From: ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub2!tdbunews!nsc32!wps@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: "Vanity" Call Signs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article F7w@srgenprp.sr.hp.com, alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
- >Pete Rossi (rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM) wrote:
- >
- >: One other thing.. Only one "vanity call" per customer...
- >
- >Oh, I dunno -- it might be nice to have a different call for your summer
- >home in a different call district. If someone wants to supplement the
- >FCC's budget to the tune of $70 per callsign, why not?
- >
- >AL N1AL
- ++ ++
- ^ ^
- | |
- +----+-------- Well I guess AL got his vanity call without the extra charge.
-
- Bill
- ---
- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
- | |
- | Bill Starkgraf wps@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com |
- | Customer Support Engineer (310) 524-5754 |
- | National Support Center (800) 222-6245 x5754 |
- | |
- | NCR Corporation KD6UQB |
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- | |
- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 93 04:59:14 GMT
- From: dorsai.dorsai.org!dorsai.dorsai.org!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: `Vanity` Call Signs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Subject: 'Vanity' Call Signs - ON HOLD!
- Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc, rec.radio.amateur.policy
-
-
- I've been scanning through this thread and have come to the conclusion
- that no one knows that the program is now on indefinate hold. More on that
- later, but first I want to correct a popular misconception.
-
- According to the policy, vanity call signs were only to be issued to
- private and military radio clubs, although I'm willing to bet that it would
- have been extended to individuals sooner or later. The FCC will not be
- issuing these call signs. The vanity program would have gone into effect
- only after the FCC turned over the issuance of callsigns and amateur
- licenses to an authorized private agency under the Callsign Administrator
- Program. The administrator would have been selected from the 6 applicants,
- all of them are already in the VEC program.
-
- According to an update to the Amateur Radio Newsline last week, a report
- not in the transcribed version, the FCC cancelled the program on 10/13/93,
- seemingly because of the chalenges the applicants have made toward each
- other and the probability that organizations that did not get the
- authority would file suit against the FCC once one had been chosen. Late
- word I have received is that this could have included legal action by
- commercial testing companies who do examination and certification programs
- for private industries and other government agencies, who were locked out
- of the program.
-
- What the FCC has done instead is that it has issued a proposal for
- rulemaking. This proposal askes if there should be a Callsign
- Administrator Program and requests input on vanity callsigns. This would
- offically put the program into it's regulations and would have the effect
- of putting whoever they decide in a legally protected situation. More
- importantly, if the rule passes, it opens up the offical bidding process
- for who gets the franchise. This would place all legal chalenges BEFORE
- any organization was designated. Something that would be less "messy"
- since these actions could only ask for rulings and not seek monetary
- damages.
-
- Newsline did not know the proposal's docket number or the ending date for
- comments. We're going to have to find out what it is and send in our
- comments right away. You can expect at least a year, (probably two),
- before any 'vanity' callsigns are issued, and the long waits for amateur
- licenses is shortened by an Administrator.
-
- Personally, I do not want to see a commercial company administer amateur
- licenses. They can charge whatever they want, while amateur organizations
- can only charge the actual costs involved since they are non profit.
- Since license fees would be used to pay for the program, you can see that
- an amateur organization would be a better choice for all of us.
-
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-
-
- ... I need an Elmer? I didn't know Mr. Fudd taught Ham Radio!
- ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 17:07:00
- From: ukma!harold.ca.uky.edu!hpeach@seismo.css.gov
- Subject: ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1993Oct27.163820.8393@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph P. Wetstein) writes:
- >From: jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph P. Wetstein)
- >Subject: ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
- >Date: 27 Oct 93 16:38:20 GMT
-
- >I am having trouble with my ICOM 24AT HT...
-
- >I turned it on last week, and nothing happened. Nope, it wasn't the battery,
- >I tried my external source...
-
- >There was some static (noise) coming out, but the display was dead, and
- >it wouldn't transmit, etc.
-
- >I used the reset sequence, the FN key and CLR + light, and it came back
- >to life, and appears to work, mostly...
-
- >but when I try to type in a frequency number, it only allows me to
- >enter the 3rd digit! i.e. if the display reads 144.100, and I type 152,
- >the display will read 141.52 ...
-
- >Is it in some silly mode that I can easily get out of, or is it
- >hosed?
-
- To the best of my recollection, that is the DEFAULT frequency entry mode for
- the 24AT. You have to enter another key sequence that I can't remember now in
- order to allow for keyboard entry of the MHz portion of the frequency.
- ---
- Harold
- hpeach@ca.uky.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 20:57:08 GMT
- From: pipex!sunic!news.funet.fi!ousrvr.oulu.fi!so-patu@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: ICOM 24AT problem **HELP**
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1993Oct27.163820.8393@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph P. Wetstein) writes:
-
- > but when I try to type in a frequency number, it only allows me to
- > enter the 3rd digit! i.e. if the display reads 144.100, and I type 152,
- > the display will read 141.52 ...
-
- > Is it in some silly mode that I can easily get out of, or is it
- > hosed?
-
- Try pushing 3+light when turning power on...just a guess
-
- Timo
- ---
- Timo Patana Phone: +358-81-344947
- OH6NVG Diana: 9102-81-344947
- University of Oulu Radio Club Mobile:+358-4049-68276
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 93 20:05:02 GMT
- From: nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!gvls1!rossi@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Is the band dead -- or nobody on?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I was talking to a friend about how dead the bands seemed lately - 10 meters
- especially, yet we both noted the following:
-
- Why is it that the band can be open to a specific area of the world yet you
- only hear a very few stations from that area??
-
- For example, the other night I was tuning around 15 meters about 9 PM local
- time (0100Z) and it sounded pretty dead .. but then I heard this one "PY"
- station. He has a reasonable signal but nothing else was on the band.
- It is hard to believe that in the whole continent of South America this
- was the only station on. I could not hear the W station he was working.
-
- Again, about a week ago I was tuning 15 meters in the early evening. Here
- were these *two* JA's coming through working U.S. stations. Now, here it is
- 8 or 9 o'clock in the morning in Japan and you are trying to tell me that
- only *two* stations in all of Japan are on 15 meters?? Really?? They are
- supposed to have more hams than we do!
-
- The more my friend and I kept talking we expanded this observation to
- other bands and times. Think back to how many times you tune the band
- and you hear this *one* nice loud station from an area and nothing else
- from that area. WHERE IS EVERYONE??
-
- Sometimes I really wonder if the bands are *really* dead. Maybe everyone
- is listening and nobody is transmitting ;-)
-
- When is the bottom of the sunspot cycle predicted for anyway? '95? '96?
-
- =================================================================
- Pete Rossi - WA3NNA rossi@vfl.paramax.COM
-
- Unisys Corporation - Government Systems Group
- Valley Forge Engineering Center - Paoli, Pennsylvania
- =================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 20:44:50 GMT
- From: pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!news.eunet.no!nuug!news.eunet.fi!fuug!krk!krksun.krk.fi!tofi@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: MACINTOSH, HAM,
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi there!!
-
- I would like to know if there is any programs on the Macintosh
- to help HAMs to keep their log?????
-
- ----
-
- Kristoffer H{ggstr|m
- tofi@krk.fi
-
- PS. please reply to my personal address.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 93 13:30:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ORBS$301.MICRO.AMSAT
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-301.D
- Orbital Elements 301.MICROS
-
- HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR THE MICROSATS
- FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX October 28, 1993
- BID: $ORBS-301.D
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
-
- Satellite: UO-14
- Catalog number: 20437
- Epoch time: 93298.72689339
- Element set: 907
- Inclination: 98.6070 deg
- RA of node: 21.5185 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011128
- Arg of perigee: 155.8328 deg
- Mean anomaly: 204.3377 deg
- Mean motion: 14.29799008 rev/day
- Decay rate: 8.5e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 19608
- Checksum: 335
-
- Satellite: AO-16
- Catalog number: 20439
- Epoch time: 93298.72161595
- Element set: 707
- Inclination: 98.6156 deg
- RA of node: 22.5143 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011307
- Arg of perigee: 156.6454 deg
- Mean anomaly: 203.5244 deg
- Mean motion: 14.29856581 rev/day
- Decay rate: 8.6e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 19609
- Checksum: 320
-
- Satellite: DO-17
- Catalog number: 20440
- Epoch time: 93298.76860351
- Element set: 707
- Inclination: 98.6159 deg
- RA of node: 22.8081 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011473
- Arg of perigee: 155.9730 deg
- Mean anomaly: 204.1990 deg
- Mean motion: 14.29993472 rev/day
- Decay rate: 8.8e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 19611
- Checksum: 324
-
- Satellite: WO-18
- Catalog number: 20441
- Epoch time: 93298.73999612
- Element set: 708
- Inclination: 98.6156 deg
- RA of node: 22.7974 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011996
- Arg of perigee: 156.7230 deg
- Mean anomaly: 203.4497 deg
- Mean motion: 14.29971655 rev/day
- Decay rate: 7.1e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 19611
- Checksum: 343
-
- Satellite: LO-19
- Catalog number: 20442
- Epoch time: 93298.73359862
- Element set: 707
- Inclination: 98.6163 deg
- RA of node: 22.9939 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0012327
- Arg of perigee: 156.2467 deg
- Mean anomaly: 203.9286 deg
- Mean motion: 14.30063548 rev/day
- Decay rate: 8.4e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 19612
- Checksum: 329
-
- Satellite: UO-22
- Catalog number: 21575
- Epoch time: 93298.74500372
- Element set: 407
- Inclination: 98.4612 deg
- RA of node: 12.6843 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0007035
- Arg of perigee: 274.2635 deg
- Mean anomaly: 85.7748 deg
- Mean motion: 14.36859247 rev/day
- Decay rate: 1.03e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 11941
- Checksum: 310
-
- Satellite: KO-23
- Catalog number: 22077
- Epoch time: 93298.74240246
- Element set: 304
- Inclination: 66.0822 deg
- RA of node: 50.8442 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0003465
- Arg of perigee: 348.4485 deg
- Mean anomaly: 11.6453 deg
- Mean motion: 12.86281536 rev/day
- Decay rate: .00000000 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 5663
- Checksum: 276
-
- Satellite: AO-27
- Catalog number: 22825
- Epoch time: 93295.64096742
- Element set: 205
- Inclination: 98.6795 deg
- RA of node: 8.5384 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0007562
- Arg of perigee: 177.6052 deg
- Mean anomaly: 182.5167 deg
- Mean motion: 14.27585294 rev/day
- Decay rate: 5.6e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 379
- Checksum: 339
-
- Satellite: IO-26
- Catalog number: 22826
- Epoch time: 93295.63906879
- Element set: 206
- Inclination: 98.6792 deg
- RA of node: 8.5415 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0008651
- Arg of perigee: 179.1527 deg
- Mean anomaly: 180.9670 deg
- Mean motion: 14.27687862 rev/day
- Decay rate: 7.8e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 379
- Checksum: 355
-
- Satellite: KO-25
- Catalog number: 22830
- Epoch time: 93298.71610244
- Element set: 207
- Inclination: 98.5809 deg
- RA of node: 11.3340 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011835
- Arg of perigee: 139.9688 deg
- Mean anomaly: 220.2367 deg
- Mean motion: 14.28011695 rev/day
- Decay rate: 1.24e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 423
- Checksum: 285
-
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 93 13:44:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ORBS$301.MISC.AMSAT
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-301.M
- Orbital Elements 301.MISC
-
- HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
- FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX October 28, 1993
- BID: $ORBS-301.M
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
-
- Satellite: MIR
- Catalog number: 16609
- Epoch time: 93301.31899445
- Element set: 540
- Inclination: 51.6186 deg
- RA of node: 270.6474 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0006514
- Arg of perigee: 2.6256 deg
- Mean anomaly: 358.3233 deg
- Mean motion: 15.58550055 rev/day
- Decay rate: 1.2439e-04 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 43984
- Checksum: 304
-
- Satellite: HUBBLE
- Catalog number: 20580
- Epoch time: 93301.20177863
- Element set: 356
- Inclination: 28.4698 deg
- RA of node: 286.9209 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0004452
- Arg of perigee: 5.5939 deg
- Mean anomaly: 354.4702 deg
- Mean motion: 14.92891768 rev/day
- Decay rate: 9.96e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 19140
- Checksum: 326
-
- Satellite: GRO
- Catalog number: 21225
- Epoch time: 93297.55475959
- Element set: 211
- Inclination: 28.4612 deg
- RA of node: 73.5299 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0077420
- Arg of perigee: 174.2221 deg
- Mean anomaly: 185.9288 deg
- Mean motion: 15.57904631 rev/day
- Decay rate: 1.8229e-04 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 2050
- Checksum: 310
-
- Satellite: UARS
- Catalog number: 21701
- Epoch time: 93301.16109823
- Element set: 406
- Inclination: 56.9877 deg
- RA of node: 8.7080 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0005863
- Arg of perigee: 89.4282 deg
- Mean anomaly: 270.7416 deg
- Mean motion: 14.96281379 rev/day
- Decay rate: 8.66e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 11620
- Checksum: 303
-
- Satellite: POSAT
- Catalog number: 22829
- Epoch time: 93289.11726978
- Element set: 204
- Inclination: 98.6763 deg
- RA of node: 2.0610 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0010043
- Arg of perigee: 184.4594 deg
- Mean anomaly: 175.6498 deg
- Mean motion: 14.27975951 rev/day
- Decay rate: 7.2e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 286
- Checksum: 317
-
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Oct 93 13:27:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ORBS$301.OSCAR.AMSAT
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB KEPS @ AMSAT $ORBS-301.O
- Orbital Elements 301.OSCAR
-
- HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES
- FROM WA5QGD FORT WORTH,TX October 28, 1993
- BID: $ORBS-301.O
- TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT
-
- Satellite: AO-10
- Catalog number: 14129
- Epoch time: 93299.24383121
- Element set: 206
- Inclination: 27.1666 deg
- RA of node: 359.3410 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.6019738
- Arg of perigee: 124.9488 deg
- Mean anomaly: 306.7842 deg
- Mean motion: 2.05883620 rev/day
- Decay rate: -7.2e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 7796
- Checksum: 319
-
- Satellite: UO-11
- Catalog number: 14781
- Epoch time: 93299.07482308
- Element set: 607
- Inclination: 97.8024 deg
- RA of node: 319.6332 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011402
- Arg of perigee: 304.7018 deg
- Mean anomaly: 55.3113 deg
- Mean motion: 14.69072104 rev/day
- Decay rate: 2.23e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 51593
- Checksum: 280
-
- Satellite: RS-10/11
- Catalog number: 18129
- Epoch time: 93299.10285174
- Element set: 807
- Inclination: 82.9272 deg
- RA of node: 141.8725 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0011615
- Arg of perigee: 322.1644 deg
- Mean anomaly: 37.8691 deg
- Mean motion: 13.72324920 rev/day
- Decay rate: 4.6e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 31779
- Checksum: 308
-
- Satellite: AO-13
- Catalog number: 19216
- Epoch time: 93291.97902075
- Element set: 803
- Inclination: 57.9233 deg
- RA of node: 288.8083 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.7215023
- Arg of perigee: 326.4503 deg
- Mean anomaly: 3.7960 deg
- Mean motion: 2.09724992 rev/day
- Decay rate: -1.12e-06 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 4095
- Checksum: 308
-
- Satellite: FO-20
- Catalog number: 20480
- Epoch time: 93299.00186596
- Element set: 604
- Inclination: 99.0180 deg
- RA of node: 130.3366 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0541032
- Arg of perigee: 150.1410 deg
- Mean anomaly: 213.1750 deg
- Mean motion: 12.83221199 rev/day
- Decay rate: -4.8e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 17409
- Checksum: 271
-
- Satellite: AO-21
- Catalog number: 21087
- Epoch time: 93298.13050588
- Element set: 362
- Inclination: 82.9443 deg
- RA of node: 316.6683 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0036745
- ~Arg of perigee: 20.9355 deg
- Mean anomaly: 339.3296 deg
- Mean motion: 13.74527377 rev/day
- Decay rate: 8.5e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 13729
- Checksum: 332
-
- Satellite: RS-12/13
- Catalog number: 21089
- Epoch time: 93298.75967888
- Element set: 607
- Inclination: 82.9248 deg
- RA of node: 185.2906 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.0030933
- Arg of perigee: 41.5515 deg
- Mean anomaly: 318.7983 deg
- Mean motion: 13.74028575 rev/day
- Decay rate: 4.8e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 13645
- Checksum: 355
-
- Satellite: ARSENE
- Catalog number: 22654
- Epoch time: 93298.03432981
- Element set: 204
- Inclination: 1.3841 deg
- RA of node: 114.8650 deg
- Eccentricity: 0.2933270
- Arg of perigee: 159.2220 deg
- Mean anomaly: 217.6982 deg
- Mean motion: 1.42202580 rev/day
- Decay rate: -4.7e-07 rev/day^2
- Epoch rev: 241
- Checksum: 263
-
- /EX
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 07:06:31 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!uop!lll-winken.llnl.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!Freenet.carleton.ca!aj467@network
- Subject: questionable repeater operation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In a previous article, bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri) says:
-
- >wejones@cbda7.apgea.army.mil (Bill Jones) writes:
- >: About a year ago I was traveling in the northeast, and a friend who lives
- >............... ..
- >: repeater has been "broadcasting" for about a year all the qso's on the
- >: 220 side of the system over the 440 output, but no input has been possible
- >: through the 440 input. I presume that the repeater owner had the capability
- >: of opening up the 440 link for his own use, but other than that, I can't
- >: imagine why anyone would do such a thing. I don't think there is anything
- >: illegal about this operation, especially in light of how little 440 is used,
- >: but it's kind of annoying to hear all this activity, and hear the beeps
- >: from bringing up the repeater, but not being able to get in.
- >: Doesn't seem like a very appropriate use of spectrum to me. Any comments?
- >:
- >
- >In California where the 440 spectrum is probably used more than any other
- >vhf band, the activity of remoting one-way onto a 440 repeater frequency
- >is called warehousing the channel. If there is NO receiver the operation
- >is quite questionable. Many times there may be a dead receiver or
- >touch-tone access will bring it alive. The major amateur private common
- >carriers all practice this to some extent to keep itenerant traffic to a
- >minimum. The idea of warehousing is to show some form of activity on a
- >frequency to keep some deserving group from using the frequency. Many
- >groups have five to ten repeaters amongst them and can't possibly keep it
- >all going so you see a lot of .... out there.
- >
- >
- >--
- >Bob Wilkins n6fri voice 440.250+ 100pl san francisco bay area
- >bwilkins@cave.org packet n6fri @ n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.na
- >
- >
- There are a number of plausible explainations for this apparent missuse.
-
- 1) The superior penetration of the 440 Mhz signal
-
- 2) The use of 440 Mhz to avoid the intermod in a highly repeater populated
- area
-
- 3) The use of 440Mhz to test coverage before opening either a 440Mhz
- repeater, or a cross linked full duplex repeater
-
- These are not chauvinistic waste of spectrum
-
-
- --
- Bill VE3NJW, VE3NJW@VE3KYT.#EON.ON.CAN
-
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-
- Date: 28 Oct 1993 15:04:33 -0500
- From: cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!emx.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Slowpokes
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- alanb@sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) says:
-
- >Derek Wills (oo7@emx.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:
- >: ... and all
- >: those who can copy 40+ wpm get to choose the calls with lots of Es,
- >: for 30-40 wpm you get those with Is etc. No-coders, including the
- >: Extras who can't recognize their own calls at 10 wpm, get the calls
- >: that have Q, Y, J and all the other junk. Simple.
-
- >Isn't that backwards? Seems like the slow pokes should get the short
- >calls -- they need all the help they can get!
-
- I made some tapes of Trey WN4KKN operating CW from HC8 last fall.
- It was interesting and sad to listen to them later. Trey would send
- his call, and "QRZ?" and in the time it took a slow sender to send a
- medium or long callsign, Trey had already come back to someone else
- and sent them a 599. Of course, the slow sender finishes sending the
- slow call, listens, and hears silence, thinks the DX op has not picked
- anyone out of the pile-up, and calls again, probably just when the DX
- comes back with their call and QRZ? again. Ack. Of course, if you
- listen a bit before calling, you know the rhythm of the DX op, and if
- you have a long call and send it slowly, the best thing to do is turn
- off the radio and study to upgrade...
-
- The nicest "poetic justice" thing to hear is the person who sends
- "call??" right when the DX is giving their call. ZD9SXW gave his
- call after every QSO when he was active for 3 weeks, all CW, and
- around 30,000 QSOs, and people would still send "call??" at him.
-
-
- Derek "Up Lid" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
- Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
- Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392)
- oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
-
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-
- Date: 27 Oct 1993 20:23:27 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!rdewan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Special (vanity) calls
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2ame59INNvjd@emx.cc.utexas.edu>,
- Derek Wills <oo7@emx.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:
- >If this ever comes to pass, perhaps they should let the morris fans
- >have the calls with the short letters, or those that have a nice
- >rhythm (ESE et al). You could be tested on morris speed, and all
- >those who can copy 40+ wpm get to choose the calls with lots of Es,
- >for 30-40 wpm you get those with Is etc. No-coders, including the
- >Extras who can't recognize their own calls at 10 wpm, get the calls
- >that have Q, Y, J and all the other junk. Simple.
- >
- >I dunno how much I'd pay to get a call like AA5EEE, but I'd certainly
- >pay something not to get WJ0QJY.
-
- There is a local ham whom I often hear in the CW pileups. He sends beautiful
- code except when sending his call. He has to torture it and extend the
- inter-character spacing to ensure that it is copied correctly. His call
- is wb9eee.
-
- A good rythmic call that has some dit-dah variation but is not too long
- is probably the best for really weak signal work. A call such as w9rd
- would be pretty nice. :)
-
- My call, aa9ch, makes for some interesting pile-up confusion in the midwest.
- Stations w9ch and aa8ch often seem to be interested in working the same
- stations as I do. :(
-
- I also hear a local ham kb9hhh. Only on the 2m repeater. I have
- not heard him on CW yet.
-
- So BT u aa5BT.
-
- Rajiv
- aa9ch
- r-dewan@nwu.edu
-
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